Shadi Hamid joins Frank to discuss Can Religion Save Democracy?, the book he co-authored with Christian theologian Matthew Kaemingk.

Their friendship doesn’t depend on pretending their religious differences don’t exist. They disagree about some of the biggest questions a person can ask.

That becomes the starting point for a larger conversation about democracy.

Frank and Shadi talk about humility, certainty, forgiveness, political idolatry, cancel culture, and the possibility of treating disagreement as something democracy must learn to live with rather than eliminate.
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Can Religion Save Democracy?

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